C: I haven’t talked to you since the trial started. What were your reactions?
S: The trial was rigged, of course.
C: How so?
S: In so many ways. First of all, all of the witnesses were liars who hated Trump.
C: Hope Hicks? David Pecker?
S: They’re all liars. Everyone but Trump.
C: The man who told 30,000 lies in office?
S: The Washington Post lies, too. Second, the judge was biased.
C: His rulings were consistent with New York law. No serious commentator thinks otherwise.
S: He’s a Democrat, so he’s biased. He should have recused himself.
C: Just like Thomas and Alito?
S: That’s different. They represent real America. They have to vote to save us from moochers and woke warriors.
C: What else?
S: The jury came from Manhattan. They were all Trump haters, not real Americans.
C: But Trump is from Manhattan, not real America, as you call it.
S: He got over it. He hates cities as much as I do. Real America is white, Christian, and rural. It’s the only America that counts.
C: You don’t trust the jury system?
S: I only believe in juries in red America. Blue people aren’t real Americans. All they do is try to tell us how to think and ship our jobs overseas. They shouldn’t even have the right to vote.
C: So I guess you don’t really believe in liberal democracy, either?
S: I believe in Donald Trump. He’s all that stands between me and a blue wall of wokeness. He’ll make America great again, and then we can go back to normal.
C: Do you think a dictatorship is necessary to make America great again?
S: A short one, maybe. The guilty need to be punished. Revenge is required. Then we can go back to normal.
C: What does Trump stand for that you find so compelling? After all, his personal weaknesses are a matter of public record.
S: He hates the same people I do, and he’s determined to destroy them. He may not be much like me, and he may give lots of handouts to rich people, but he wants to get rid of wokeness and the elites and give power to real Americans. That’s what I believe in.