The hypothetical interview concludes.
C: Up until now, I’ve been addressing issues that are directly tied to wokeness. Now I want to move on to some questions that have a less direct relationship to wokeness, and in some cases, probably none.
D: OK.
C: Let’s start with abortion. Are people who believe in abortion rights woke?
D: No. They’re just wrong.
C: What’s the difference?
D: Abortion rights advocates were around long before wokeness was such a big problem. They also represent a lot more votes. I can’t ignore that.
C: But you clearly don’t have a problem using the power of the state to oppress them. Do you support a federal abortion ban?
D: I’m proudly pro-life. As in Florida, if Congress sends me a ban, I’ll sign it.
C: But you won’t push for it?
D: Not in public, at least. It’s bad politics.
C: You won’t get a ban as long as the filibuster is in place. Will you push Mitch to ditch the filibuster?
D: Let me put it this way. Mitch has done a lot of good for the Republican Party, and I respect that. But his vision of the party is dead as a doornail. His version of the party just fed the base a rhetorical hamburger every now and then, and put its energy into cutting taxes. The base won’t tolerate that anymore; it wants the steak. If that means getting rid of the filibuster, so be it.
C: On immigration, you seem to have embraced Trump’s vision that we need to be as cruel as possible in order to deter the would-be immigrants.
D: This is another area in which Trump talked a lot, but delivered practically nothing. I’ll take his talk and put it into action.
C: So you accept his argument that cruelty is necessary here?
D: We have to maintain control of the borders. Whatever it takes.
C: Does it trouble you that your Catholic Church believes in humane treatment for immigrants?
D: Not really. Some religious beliefs work well in theory, but not in practice. The American people want to keep illegals out, so we’ll do whatever is necessary to get it done. The humane thing is for them to stay home.
C: But what about the impacts on business? Look at what happened to the UK after Brexit.
D: Woke capital doesn’t run this party any more. If we have some short term economic problems, so be it. America is for Americans–period.
C: Let’s move on to entitlements. Your first book recommended cutting them. Now you say no. Why?
D: Too many real Americans rely on them. They vote, too.
C: Biden wants to raise taxes on the wealthy to keep the programs solvent. Do you agree?
D: I’m not in favor of raising taxes. Taxes are theft, and Biden is a socialist.
C: Then what’s your plan for keeping the programs solvent?
D: The immediate crisis is wokeness, not entitlements. I’ll worry about them after I’m finished with the real task at hand.
C: So you have no plan?
D: I have to put all of my energy into fighting wokeness. Entitlements can wait.
C: Do you have a plan for a tax cut?
D: I cut taxes in Florida.
C: Because Biden gave you billions of dollars during the pandemic to make it possible.
D: If he wanted to give me the rope to hang him, so be it.
C: But do you have a plan for a federal tax cut?
D: At some point, I will, but fighting wokeness is the priority. I’m not giving any handouts to woke capital, that’s for sure.
C: You didn’t cut the budget in Florida. Would you be a budget cutter as president?
D: I would cut welfare programs and green energy subsidies. They waste too much money and piss off the base.
C: Anything else? If you take entitlements and defense off the table, there isn’t much left.
D: Not really. The base doesn’t care about the deficit. It does care about welfare and woke green energy.
C: Did you support the McCarthy budget deal?
D: No, because he didn’t cut welfare and green energy enough. He had the opportunity of a lifetime to turn this country around, and he blew it, just to keep a handful of rich businessmen happy.
C: Let’s move on to foreign policy. Many prominent members of your party are ardent admirers of Putin, because they see him as a fighter against wokeness. Do you agree with them?
D: I’m not a fool. I’m not Trump, or George W. Bush looking into Putin’s soul. The man is a KGB agent, and a killer. He should never have invaded Ukraine. That doesn’t mean we can’t do business with him on occasion.
C: Some members of your party want to appease Putin in Ukraine, and possibly elsewhere, in exchange for support against China. Do you agree with them?
D: I’m skeptical, but I’m willing to look into it. It would be worth trying.
C: Even if it effectively meant the end of NATO?
D: I’m in favor of exploring my options. That doesn’t necessarily mean I would accept any of them. It’s purely hypothetical at this point.
C: You’re an admirer of Netanyahu’s, are you not?
D: Absolutely! He’s like Churchill to me.
C: Do you see him as a warrior against Israeli wokeness?
D: Yes. He’s trying to stick it to the blue establishment on behalf of the real Israeli people. That’s my kind of guy.
C: If he asks you as president to bomb Iran, would you do it?
D: I would give it serious consideration. It would depend on the specific circumstances.
C: Do you have any issues with the Israeli government’s treatment of the Palestinians?
D: Not really. The Palestinians haven’t done anything to deserve their freedom. They’re just a bunch of terrorists.
C: Let’s conclude with China. I assume you think Biden has been soft on China.
D: Of course! He’s just another Jimmy Carter.
C: What would you do differently to contain China? Biden has strengthened our alliances in Asia and put new restrictions on tech exports. That doesn’t sound like being soft to me.
D: I would increase the defense budget, build more ships, and give more weapons to Taiwan. I would also explore flipping Putin, as I said before. He could be a big help with the Chinese.
C: How? The Chinese don’t rely on him for anything.
D: If they had to put more money into ground troops on their border, they would have less to spend on an invasion of Taiwan.
C: You would consider giving up Ukraine and splitting NATO for that?
D: Everything has to be on the table. China is like wokeness; it’s an existential threat.
C: Thank you for your time.