C: There is a very real possibility that Ron DeSantis will be the Republican nominee in 2024. How do you feel about that?
M: At least he’s not Trump, but I don’t completely trust him.
S: He’s not Trump, and I don’t trust him.
C: There are obviously points of similarity and difference in your responses. Mark, tell me what you mean.
M: First, let me tell you what I think of Trump.
C: Please do.
M: Trump cut my taxes and business regulations, so, at least on the economy, there was a lot to like there. He’s a totally orthodox Republican on those issues. I’m grateful for that, and I haven’t forgotten.
C: I suspect there is a “but” coming next.
M: But the man is way too fixated on his own grievances and on stoking the divisions in this country. He’s corrupt and narcissistic. He doesn’t care about the American people; he only cares about himself. He loves dictators and ignores the Constitution. He tried to overthrow the government. A tax cut doesn’t justify all of that.
S: Whatever you say, you pathetic RINO.
C: What about DeSantis?
M: I’m mostly OK with what he says about wokeness, but that’s a really small part of the job, and he makes it sound like the biggest part of the job. He doesn’t sound that friendly to business. The Disney thing scares me. If you say something bad about him, he might want to take over your business. And then there’s his ridiculous position on vaccines. Why would I support someone like that?
C: Have you written him off?
M: No, but he has a lot to prove to me.
C: Would it help you to know that he supported big tax and spending cuts in Congress?
M: Yes, but that might have been pure opportunism. As I said, he has a lot to prove to me. He’ll get his chance during the debates.
C: Sebastian, I take it you don’t agree?
S: Hell, no!
C: Why not?
S: The thing about Trump that RINOs like him don’t understand is that the man is on my side. He makes that clear every day. He does battle with the establishment every day. I know he won’t sell me out.
C: Do you really know that? The man has a history of screwing over everyone who supports him. He demands loyalty, but gives none.
S: Every time Trump does something the left and the establishment think is corrupt or outrageous or racist or narcissistic, he’s really telling me he wants to burn it down. That’s what I want.
C: Why?
S: Because I don’t get the respect I deserve–the respect I used to get from this country as a hard-working, self-sufficient, law-abiding taxpayer. If there’s no other way to get it, I say burn it down.
M: And make me a poor man?
S: If necessary, yes. Your money means nothing to me.
C: And DeSantis?
S: First of all, he owes his job to Trump, so he should be willing to wait his turn. If there’s one thing I hate, it’s disloyalty. Second, there’s nothing about his background that suggests that he wants to burn it down. My guess is that he would sell out to the establishment the minute he gets the nomination in order to get elected. Third, his focus on wokeness is OK, but it doesn’t really address my concerns. I don’t really care about trans people–I don’t even know any. What I care about is controlling the border and protecting white Christians. Trump has a clear record on that; DeSantis doesn’t.
C: So you may disagree with Mark on many things, but you agree on one thing–you don’t trust DeSantis until he proves it to you.
S: Exactly. And he has a long way to go.
C: OK. I’ll see you both in a few months, when the field is finally set.